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Candidates' health care plan comparisons

This site has a good detailed comparisons on what the various candidates want to do about national health care plans:

http://www.health08.org/sidebyside.cfm

Kind of depressing, though, seeing how most of even the liberal Democrats' plans, if implemented, might help some people but wouldn't really fix the underlying problems. Damn, I want a Kucinich 's plan, and damn, I'm not going to get it. I wonder what would happen if all the people who say, "I like Kucinich but he can't win" decided that he could win. Not gonna happen, though, not after the last presidential election.

The Republican plans are especially sucky, with the partial exception of John McCain, who's at least way better than the other Republicans.

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freeimprov
Jan. 8th, 2008 10:59 pm (UTC)
To me, the proposals from the candidates aren't about POLICY at all. Remember, it's Congress that passes the laws, not the president. Rather, they're statements of mood and intent and style.

My big fear is that we'll once again wind up with a Democratic president who wants to do SOMETHING about health care, and a Democratic Congress too corrupt and drunk with power to actually write and pass decent law... just like happened with Hillarycare back in 1993. And Democrats will rightly be punished for it.
grenacia
Jan. 9th, 2008 01:28 am (UTC)
Of course that's a concern as well. But at the moment I'm just bugged that they don't have good plans in the first place, even if they get passed. Sure, some positive changes in health care are better than nothing, but they all seem like a band-aid instead of a cure.
damncutekitty
Jan. 8th, 2008 11:23 pm (UTC)
Kucinich is the only one using the magic words that we NEED in our healthcare system. Not for profit. Of course that will never happen in this country. Sigh...

I work in health insurance. In a for-profit healthcare system, deregulation and leaving it up to the "free market" is basically the Republicans fancy way of saying "Fuck the poor". Healthcare prices are not regulated at all right now except by Medicare. But that only applies to Medicare patients- not everyone else. The current trend in health insurance is already heading towards making it more consumer driven (if you don't already have a HRA or HSA instead of a traditional health plan you will in the next few years), but having been in the industry for a while I can tell you this is going to BACKFIRE. The healthcare industry has gotten so big, so expensive and so confusing that trying to make it also "consumer driven" is going to have disastrous effects. I am already plotting my escape, I prefer not to be in the industry when it effing collapses.

soylentmean
Jan. 8th, 2008 11:34 pm (UTC)
Yes yes yes for Kucinich. He has, IMHO, the best health plan out of all the candidates.
grenacia
Jan. 9th, 2008 01:32 am (UTC)
Good to hear your insider perspective. The health care industry is so broken. It's not just screwing up people's lives, it's also a big problem for companies large and small trying to provide benefits to their employees. I wish all conservative politicians would get that. This is not just a liberal issue.
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grenacia
Jan. 9th, 2008 01:35 am (UTC)
That's funny, I didn't catch that error, despite it being my pet peeve of the day - I keep seeing people write the wrong word: "know" instead of "now", "You're" when "your" is the appropriate usage. At least in the above case the meaning is the same.
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soylentmean
Jan. 9th, 2008 02:00 pm (UTC)
Oh, bah humbug with you. Just like Universal Health Care in the US, Kucinich is merely a fantasy of a better world that is unlikely to happen in this selfish little place. :P
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soylentmean
Jan. 9th, 2008 04:10 pm (UTC)
Well... yeah. :) I wouldn't vote for Kucinich in the primaries, because I agree that there are better, more electable candidates. That said, if we had a direct democracy, I'd totally vote for Kucinich's health care plan, which is what the OP was getting at.
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